Interview with Dr. Kanwar Partap S. Gill MD and discussion the current healthcare system. See AroundTheClockMD.com for more info.

English ()0:09welcome to weaponize news0:11with your host store web in stamp cheney0:14fighting the international bankers one-world government scientific0:18dictatorship0:19break for my control be the change you want to see in the world0:23and now here's our whole stiller and fam0:27welcome to weaponize news0:30I'm your host your weblog may cause Sam cheney a0:34we are broadcasting here in 1680 a.m. in Fresno0:37please visit weaponized news dot com we just launched a couple weeks ago0:41and we are now broadcasting as weapon is news we love it we love our new site to0:46check it out0:47will be posting everyday news stories what's going on0:50so please check out the site and will be looking for advertisers as well0:54here for the first hour broadcast we have a special guest0:58doctor I would seek Kanwar1:01Gill IMD he will be discussing1:04the some things he dislikes about %ah the where health care industry is going1:09though what he has to deal with and what is patients have to deal with so1:12thank you for joining us thanks for having me so1:16what exactly why is our health care system1:19a in you then I United States1:22giving so many fewer problems what is what is it is it the bureaucracies that1:26Obamacare1:27what are you struggling with the most in 20 patients struggling with them up most1:31I think you know the health care system the way it is in the way that direction1:34it's heading1:35from is giving us trouble because two most important1:40people in the entire system are being totally sideline and that is the1:44position1:45and the patient it's all about doctor-patient relationship1:48and unfortunately on that that that1:52that Batticaloa relationship is been disregarded and everybody else is trying1:56to help1:57without listening to the two individuals were involved in here2:00yes the most important people you know every it it's just unbelievable that2:05now the government is the third party that I guess has the most say in between2:09a you know someone has2:11cancer and you're trying to treat them and the San discuss what the white right2:14direction they need to go to a source treatment goes2:18the government has a saint2:19in the end the can keep that person from my from NN yourself from2:24from possibly operating on that person because all other regulation2:27and the new law that was implemented correct yes and that2:32that has you know that the they're trying to call it accountability2:35um and it does promote accountability and so did we but2:38not at the cost of the harm being done to the patient's2:42so we have two foes recognize that whatever initiated2:45we take one of the things is not do any harm and then do good of course2:50and essentially what has happened in the wait is transforming is2:53arm a harm inadvertently are or something2:58in in general is being done to the patient care which bothers us and at the3:02reason I'm taking my time on a busy evening3:05is it bothers me as a position this was not the thing3:08I went to school for in this is something that our bodies me3:11would be one of the Dom disappointments3:15when my kids considered to pursue a career in medicine3:18and unfortunately I would not recommend anyone to the3:22to my children to go into medicine because of the way the system is heading3:26in the direction it's heading to3:27yeah well I mean I wouldn't get into3:31going I would try to become a doctor right now because you have to deal with3:34the government and the government is directly involved in your life3:37constantly3:38and at and and also your just like you said3:41you first you wanna make sure that you don't do anything wrong but also you3:44then you wanna make sure you do good but now3:46they're affecting both at those options too much right i mean they're affected3:50out now you want to operate but now you can't because there's so much regulation3:54track3:55the regulation and deregulation is not very constructive deregulation3:59is based on one you know they they all know that there is a cost attached to4:03on the care to patient care and a lot of the sick people fall in the age group of4:0865 in about4:09which are funded through programs in medicare and medicaid4:13and most of those payments are coming are from4:17the government on the Treasury as we would say4:20on unfortunately the private insurance market is4:24on limited to younger age group which is fairly healthy which is4:27with the risk and exposure to the insurance companies is lot less4:31arm and essentially we do understand government is4:35my putting in a lot of money in here what what we do not understand is that4:40that direction which government has as well as spending is concerned4:44you know you coming up with pilot program the CEO being one of them4:48right now Affordable Care participation is voluntary propositions4:52but I'm sure you know they'll come over data in five to 10 years from now4:56come over the numbers that would not make most sense to4:59educated people but would be presented in a manner that5:02a we were able to achieve this many billions of dollars in saving5:06because if there's at a cost of somebody who died5:10court waiting for a surgery yeah are because I could not see the patient5:14yesterday5:14because I would not be good insurance yeah so does though5:18so it's going to be like a ration care then and now5:21they're gonna twist that data around inform statistics that5:26they're gonna sell its in mainstream media has been successful winner5:30somebody years working in the field like yourself knows that that is not the case5:34and yes and that is truly the case and that that is being done on a more5:38national level in the organization5:40which which claim to represent positions but only a handful of the executive5:44position5:45who are not in the trenches we don't practice medicine we don't see patients5:48on a daily basis into those positions do not have5:51any idea what we go through in terms of making things happen for operations5:56be be really struggled sometime who even5:59a get a consular guess to get an MRI done and that's so unfortunate it was6:04not the case when I discuss my cousins6:06who graduated in late eighties from residency programs they said things were6:10a lot lot better6:11even up to late 90's and I'll beginning of 20006:15things headed in a direction but they were not bad up until about6:18last two or three years and Nabi weaves the started to feel every one of us have6:23started to feel patients being the worst sufferers are what is going on6:26on I personally have a belief that6:29if patients do not take care6:32of dedicated at right now things would6:36not improve it all they have to be engaged they have to be empowered6:40they need to know they need to be educated now is not the time6:43to sit back on the back seat and let somebody else drive the car6:46yeah is so are medical care used to be.6:50tests probably the best in the world at some point a couple that decades ago6:53right6:54it was it's totally you know it depends on what indicators you look at for6:58into their some persons would call it it's the leading cutting-edge technology7:02how7:03you minutes no ration care adds that as a matter we have the technology but we7:07don't but now it's just deciding the government gets to decide who gets the7:10operations in7:11you you can accept certain adjourns plans because7:15all the regulation him the truth the regulation you know the wreck it should7:19be a free market economy7:20young people like me they should be able to come to me you should have a choice7:24to come to me7:25right now the choice with the law to my patients7:28the choices they don't really have a choice to see me they like me7:31but they just have don't have a choice to see because they don't have the7:35correct insurance plan right they don't have that you know that there was a time7:38when7:39I had to put on as my voice you know the initial I am7:42welcome message on my phone system that I do not take covered California and I7:46do not take7:47Obama now so you know if that is the first thing you hear from a doctor's7:51office7:51because I used a lot of the patients that you could potentially see it help7:55and you can people be even tired of getting calls when we would not be human7:58being compensated accordingly8:00so we decided you know instead of wasting our office time telling that we8:04don't take this8:05why not just go head and arm just have it as a message8:09that we don't take it if you still want to talk to us will be with you shortly8:12yes some people still wanna go if they really want good care they're just gonna8:16say no I'm gonna pay it8:17they are a lot of my patients have chosen that bad yeah and it either way8:21it should be at this point8:23be a dick it shouldn't be these are those men and women who worked for this8:26country8:27the they had invested their time we heard a number of years to be eligible8:31for Medicare8:32and now when when our time when really would want them to get the care they8:38need8:38yet the ABN creating too much of administrative hurdles8:42out for them to even get the task accomplished yet so having insurance is8:45pointless at this point you're paying out of pocket if you want to get stuck8:48actual work done right yes you know if you have a deductible as high as 5,0008:52and 10,000 you're just a 32-year-old8:54yeah you would not be able to meet the deductible because you won't get that8:58sick8:59that he would spend five thousand dollars in a year on your own app9:02unionism9:02yeah just go to a doctor like once or twice a year yeah9:05and you know that is something that should have been envisioned in these9:09programs9:10if they were trying to make health care health insurance Odin9:13make a high deductible plan and make things cheaper let doctors9:17exactly do I enter into the free market I would have come up with my plan like9:21forty nine dollars a month yet here we go9:24so you know we don't unfortunately the way they were all insurance9:27and us restructured we cannot be in small positions cannot really9:32are come up into the open market and compete with these insurance carrier9:36yeah because of the regulation that is forced upon us9:40through legislative process yen in the AM9:43and it's through your license RAM you could get your license taken away if you9:47do something wrong right9:48while dad that and of course that is what can happen9:51and a novel I'll little bit later I'll just come9:54all licensing is a state on California State9:58arm um authority10:01and hauled the regulation is being structured that federal government can10:06literally control the way we practice medicine it is that is a big change10:10it's a slow change but that's the direction it's leading up to10:14yeah and you know it's just pisses me off is that10:17you know you're you're a licensed physician your doctor and an10:21you should be able to operate in the free market now we not we're not a free10:24market anymore though10:25government controls command-and-control met a joke on me a 16 the economy is10:30health care10:30and so I so you can operate so if there is no incentive now for10:34for young kids that wanna go learn how to be doctors amid what's the incentive10:38they might not even have it i mean they may not be making the money that they10:41they should be making10:42or the they're going to have such a headache with all the regulation then I10:46can be able to set up their own practice without10:48but you know get going bankrupt at this point right I made well they intended10:51of the regulation is to peak private practice10:54out of10:55a party bosses over position they want to read they want the 2011 construed and10:59wants control of our health and11:01yes that was the kind that's where it is heading to I'm11:05yeah Dec do you want to get into the whole the data sharing11:08issue that while um it was you know the the11:12the data sharing that has been it hasn't it is happening at multiple levels and11:16multiple organizations have been channeled into11:19who quote-unquote help government does this government11:22into a bigger initiate evolve mining I don't call it sharing11:25II iconic mining or digging yeah because essentially that's what we're not11:30sharing sharing is consent consent required here they're forcing the right11:33through the regulation11:35with through certain processes that have been in place one of them was being11:39board certification11:40or doctors try to be board-certified it's an Edward is meant to make11:44nothing really changes after you take this then exam after two or three days11:48I've been studying11:49are you don't have to do in pass you didn't have to take it for more at least11:5210 years11:53number now the government has incentivize we get .5 percent extra12:00everybody's baited so in the payments so12:03but but the participation requires that we shared12:07heart patients treatment plans leave they add the only thing missing is their12:12name12:12its it and not be ideal in their number attached that data12:15there is a number attached to the dot I but um12:19that number isn't bad right now it's it's very mmm12:22very limited the number right now but I have a feeling12:26we government-funded electronic health record beginning 201012:30nineteen billion dollar those invested to12:33give doctors and a financial incentive to start electronic health care records12:38which is basically because they were not able to begin to our people charged and12:42now they have a12:42they have a certified technology to dig into the charge12:46my my concern I don't have a problem with somebody looking12:49at my practice I don't have I die I wish12:53I would learn AutoCAD what I have a problem is12:56with two things I don't have a patient consent when that happens I'll13:01I I definitely have a problem in when the trust and privacy is violated13:06I have a problem because its POS Malaysia13:09no business you know like that's a direct violation of the government's own13:12law here for13:13I mean yeah their constraining if the other thing is the thing is it13:17is it is while Asian it days while Asian offer hit by Matt stricter sense13:22but there is the legislation which we images being which has been13:26promoted by a lobby right now that legislation say's that13:30if that kind for data is shared for research purposes13:34it would be excluded from here below regulation13:38oh wow it's just as likely that your address and actually13:42um on some the key people have actually supported that then I i'm13:47I'm who I'm won't go into the details of those but essentially there is a plan to13:51make it more of a law13:52to excluded data for research purposes13:56and consent is not needed we usually have business eg business associate13:59agreements with the Medical Board when14:01you know you see that box on the body bottomed before you submit to check the14:05box yeah14:06I agree to the terms and condition you're not the doctors have that kind of14:09a time when they take a test14:10they just checked the box and summitted and one ordered one of the business14:14associate14:15agreement some conditions is that we will be sharing their data14:20without your consent I wish I had known it14:23I didn't know about it but when I found out they've started asking14:26in fact I got a call from the see all chief operating officer for American14:31Board of Family Medicine14:32he he threaten me over the phone that big inning generally first 201514:37my board certification would be revoked and we've developed past14:41novels to January but it started to look the extended14:45I told them I'm not going to share data period wow okay so you still you stood14:49up to them14:50yeah I stood up to them and I'm they extended it and I don't know how long14:54will has14:55because they know you're in the right and they are in the wrong day or just14:58being a moral person and say I'm not doing this violates15:01my morals and have a credit growth see seed15:05thing is that I was told 56,000 physicians15:08one on the bandwagon that they agreed to sharing the data and position do not15:12have that kind of a time15:13to stand up and um dad I mean basically15:17fight with someone15:19AL well have put be politically active its heart you guys are busy trying to15:23help save lives immediately don't we just what every time we get we try to15:26spend it with my family and we'd be really don't have that kind of a time15:30the second thing is which is also are starting to happen is15:34these these medical boards although the nonprofit15:38the call them some will not be $375 million dollar15:42annual business yeah their financial lobby15:45the the be our boards which is the trade association15:49and they have a foundation and the way the money flows between the two15:52is a closely guarded secret but it's all about money15:56yeah um American Board of Internal Medicine have upwards of $20 million16:00income they're very notorious a filing their returns were delayed16:04the tax-exempt right their tax-exempt but you can always get those returns16:08online and last time I was looking at it16:10I was personally shocked and most of that income was coming from my wallet16:14and physicians like me16:15what they're doing is they're trying to give hospitals glance16:19to do those little tiny small studies and they're trying to make board16:24certification as part of privileges the app so16:26what what the world is gonna happen is that if I'm for example I'm in Fresno if16:30I were to get privileges and community arts build on down16:33I have to be board-certified community also really were runs16:37a group called sin be positions and food to be published on their panel you have16:42to be board-certified16:43although this is the well-known preprocess board certification16:46is quote unquote 1923 but you look on a daily day-to-day business16:51we cannot really just be without it yet16:54this is it just seems like the American Medical Association that is what you i16:58mean you have to be certified through them corral be17:01we don't have to be let me rephrase Ilya it's a voluntary process we take it17:06because we just want to be me just take it and just17:10get rid of it yeah essentially makes a and made a standard right it's not a17:14standard mix look good on the17:16ma non are visiting Qatar business got board-certified is a trademark17:20American Board of Medical Specialties and whenever something is a trademark17:24that his daughter Kylie money link behind17:27so how who can who has the power to revoke your license17:30license nor do you accept the Medical Board of California17:33and there are strict rules governing it federal government has no authority17:38yeah on my license but unfortunately it doesn't have authority on licensing me17:43but there is an unusual arm17:47pressure being put on me through various regulations17:51to control the way I practice so you on one hand a state has given me a license17:56to practice17:56on other hand you would buy my and literally behind my back when is not18:00active thing18:01talking to practice like that yeah have you thought about18:05a filing lawsuits are how do you know other physicians that have filed18:09lawsuits18:09see there is a jaded there is a large sued actually file in Chicago18:14arm on and view its it too it turned into a class action18:18and this is positioned actually going against the ABMS or American Board of18:22Medical Specialties18:23arm that the process is that they have devised18:27are braced they do not promote excellence18:30the kinda promote stagnation yeah you know that they would ask a question me18:34question from 2009 in that exam that taking in 2015 exactly eyes changes18:39daily you have you heard18:40so I have knowledge I have to think like what could have been the right question18:44in two parts line 32 other night because a line change that by the time change on18:49has changed so you have to fix you I mean why would you take an exam18:52with said she was 67 years behind the the cutting edge technology18:57yeah no sir it literally is just19:00a their stifling innovation their stifling be19:03their seven just care that's waiting to be given through regulation I mean if19:07you want to eat so you operate19:09you're just have a private practice right now right her and just to operate19:13a private practice how much of a headache is it i mean are you how much19:17longer you gonna continue19:18if this continues to escalate more and more regulation19:22I i mean are your I know you're fed up by your you paint patients19:26obviously come to you for a reason cuz you're good at what you do19:29but I mean are they getting fed up with what's going on don't know I died this19:32is what I approach you know and the patients are the19:34are the basic support pillar so far19:37I tell them I'm fed up and they tell me no you don't get fed up19:40we are behind you in Albany will supply with you so it is because of my patients19:44that19:45BB we have eased this I won't say a water but19:48arm on some sort of a determination that we have now19:52is because of the active support and engagement to my patients19:55and the other ones who really are helping us through this tough time I19:59would call19:59this changes change that is happening is affecting us financially20:04is affecting us our psyche it's affecting the way we make decisions20:08we shouldn't make decisions I that we have to20:12evaluate from arm apps standpoint of20:16on Hall be would do it20:19if we were not tied with a regulation you know hall would be would do it20:23if it's the best forget about money forget about everything20:26way to do what is the best thing for this patient20:29yeah if the answer is the second best I think then of course we are not the best20:33health care system20:34the answer should be best thing for the patient yeah that's just the way it20:37should be in a free market20:39so but you know what your what you're doing right now is gonna benefit you in20:43the future and it's already better for you now because20:45people once they realize and I know my for20:48I have a friend who's pregnant right now I'm she's change doctors multiple times20:52and it just it's terrible what she's going through20:54I've had friends that had health care at the same health care plan for like nine20:58years and then20:59no doctor will see them now and they pay more21:02also and so but what you're doing is21:05you're standing up to the system and like you said your patients are behind21:08you there's going to be more patients that are kinda want to see a doctor21:12and they're gonna be willing to pay even if it's a little bit you know either way21:15we're all paying for it anyway21:17it rather you get the care not work it would we have to pay Obamacare makes you21:20pay21:21makes you pee F yes so I'd rather go to someone I know I can trust that is21:26against what's going on the just wants21:27to do what they what they think is best for the patient what they've decided21:31I'd rather go to someone like that and operate in the free market even if it21:35costs a little bit more to start but it's just like21:37eating organically I'm in the market will change people are gonna need21:40healthcare21:40I'm I don't really need it right now but because I'm healthy21:44but I the only reason I don't go to doctors cuz I don't wanna go see a21:46doctor that says21:47well you know it's a subject21:49every time I go it's a big bureaucratic to like okay you gotta get your flu flu21:53shot I mean in every way i right just cite yeah21:56in and I don't want them known any my somebody but doctors like you21:59people need that and they're gonna be looking for that because22:03how much longer you think Obamacare I mean will be able to be implemented22:06and and actually function and people are you having so much trouble right now22:10let's let's step back and see two years ago when Obamacare was22:13are and implemented you know what became up was that22:16medi-cal are state Medicaid as we called we call it in my head I'm at a22:21california here in California magic built22:24covered californian medi-cal does our those are the black covered californians22:27are the plan that has subsidized22:29to some degree by the government based on your income these these22:33there are plans for a call medi-cal which most people who are22:36are you know bill also deny income have it so22:40what government said was that we will support equal payments to Medicare which22:45is substantially high for California22:47for 2013-14 come december22:5031st 2014 a lot of those patients who got insurance22:55couldn't find a doctor I was so I i kno hard it was and is generally first for23:01me23:02when a lot of doctors stop taking the medical patients because23:05all of a sudden in one night a clock was reset to two years behind23:10and payments dropped from maybe seventy to eighty dollars to sixteen dollars23:15would see a patient for a sixteen dollars nobody would average23:19reimbursement is 1623:20and for that but Alex told the truth was that was gonna increase access to care23:24when actually it decreased access to care because physicians can even23:28afford operating expenses for their practices to keep the doors open to keep23:32to accept this23:34the the government healthcare this actually decrease the axis appear23:38now if you look at it the enrollment increased23:41are many fold and when enrollment in keys you would expect more doctors23:46and all of a sudden the doctors have stopped seeing these patients23:49and you we have more people insured now23:52then we hired when we start in January of 201323:56but we have a lot less doctors who are willing to continue what they've been23:59doing for the last two years24:01so where it where it is the good thing where is24:04their word was that there are missed us now where is the promise God that it24:08when a free care24:09well the promise doctors all be gone in Pisa payment the prom and patience24:14you'll have access to the doctor24:15the thing is this is not this we have to step back and see that24:20this is the problem you're trying to solve not for ourselves24:23but also for arcades what is the best way let's listen to the stakeholders24:28stakeholder is essentially24:29patient and physician listen to them the government says though the stakeholders24:34in our lives I guess so basically what happen is that they've24:37they've turned to the health care system over in control of the government has24:41controlled the health care system24:42and now doctors like you won't accept24:45there the insurance plan that we all die in a rosary hey you never know we are24:49ready for it24:50Affordable Care you can't afford a portable care so what's gonna happen is24:53it just gonna be24:54but where are we gonna have to pay I mean I mean is gonna have to be24:59just lines have people to see only certain doctors that what are25:03are paid a certain wage a through got a25:06government brand hospitals are ya that what we're gonna be25:10there that is exactly what is gonna be we have be could be called them25:13federally qualified health centers those are the ones you without the lineup like25:18the Veterans Hospitals25:19no veterans is for the veterans okay these are special clinics like Lanikai25:23said %uh Vista25:24these are funded through federal government programs and25:27you know you this is just real bit I would say it would head25:32I the may not have the best doctors25:35but they certainly would have their doors open with a be25:39time a thirty to sixty days I mean if you call them and you tell them you have25:43this insurance sometimes25:44they won't say that you don't own they don't take it but they will say you know25:48come back in about ninety five yeah if you have any a banker and let me know25:52that a broken leg I'll 9a five days is not where you25:55and most of these people would end up in the ER and seek yam25:59bed will be the cost-saving would and wouldn't it be a better that I see a26:03patient in my urgent care26:04stabilize and send them home yeah audible you pay ten times more26:08in any art for the same patient where is the common sense here why not have more26:13doctors26:14who could attend to so we can weekend kinda fun clog oder systems26:18so yes is where it is you know we need to focus26:21on individuals we need to focus we need to bring26:25medicine to the people right now there is a lot of distance between26:29help and health care absolutely26:32and folks this is what happens when you centralize thinks26:36k the centralization of power the centralization of health care26:40men less options we gotta go to a quick break but where26:43with our guest come word doctor come well Kanwar Gill26:47will be back on the celebrate in Iraq26:54I'm26:59welcome back to weaponize news with your host your web27:02and Sam cheney and now back to the cell27:05now back to you guys welcome back we're here with our guest doctor27:11Kanwar Gill he is talking to us about the health care system is private27:15practice27:16and ease discussing why he does not like27:19what's going on with the health care industry I'm your host your web along27:23with my clothes Sam cheney this has weaponized news on 1680 a.m. if27:27you just joined us well let's get back to the interview so27:31that folks when you centralize27:35when you centralized things you have less options are right now27:39a were talking to doctor gil here he can accept a lotta plants because their27:45government there27:46their government plans cracked yes and so or would you say you can't you can27:50see someone for sixteen dollars a27:52keep the lights are well hi I have to lie I don't see medi-cal27:56be have a my huge percentage of this company's medical and I don't see it in28:00my office I have nothing against the patient28:03yes not financially by cannot even stay in practice if you have 50 to be start28:07seeing those patients I'm working28:09I'm working a deal with health net which is can be by you know which is28:13a company that manages some of these plans and we're trying to see if we can28:17somehow28:18compensate on other side of our commercial payors business28:22tomb at least afford make this thing affordable to the patient one in28:26government plans28:27so I would subsidize I would I would have to make up on the commercial side28:31essentially by the people who who actually pay for the job pay outta28:35pocket28:35the PR to the park it to see operation for his government pays28:39yeah little sis television I'm trying to work because28:43II occurs end of the day my reputation at stake in a van people start talking28:47he doesn't take my insurance doesn't sound right yeah they're gonna28:51dehumanize28:52private practice doctors that don't take it and say well you hate poor pure greed28:57you know I kill you28:58a I think that yet brand new agreement they're gonna say they don't know the29:02RDR Senate they've been saying it and then the people out there don't29:06understand the young operating expenses you have to make a profit for your time29:10to keep the lights on your other administrative staff and what not to pay29:14for29:14and people just don't understand that you're just bad because you won't take29:18their plan29:19that a sixteen dollars and and yes that's that's truly the case29:23but I have I have you know I've engage people enough try to29:26explain them and there's been occasion I knew that person walked into my clinic29:31will not be me but payment is not an issue I had a lady who was having29:35difficulty breathing29:36and I knew I had to do something about yours so I saw her and when I saw shoes29:40with and the next time she said29:41you don't take my angel eyes at you forget about the bill you're not getting29:44anything29:45Bob from me I won't I'm on chargeable you anything the reason is that29:49I want that person to go and tell to others that29:53be a not bad we are good doctors yeah is just that29:56but be just cannot operate with the regulations and whatever we r30:01be at their own at us you have to make your staff writer30:05the and up goes with the California salary minimum age going up30:09yeah in the next few months you know how would you also have to pay for a lot of30:12these people that don't have jobs there on government assistance and they have30:15government health care I made you got you have to pay out your pic taxes30:19the proper you make you have to pay for them to live in an apartment30:22I don't have control on the hike the exact good people30:25know it's terrible and so yes you you like you said you're gonna see someone30:29if they need help30:30and because you're good doctor in any and thats30:34that's the standard that you hold yourself to but it's just unbelievable30:37that that like to work for it for instance if if you wanna do30:42you know with others regulation I mean just for you to sit down with me NCAA I30:45wanna30:46have you do this operation or whatever I want to have you look at this um30:49and we just had a pocket or or I mean what is it what is the kind of30:53regulations you have to to go through do I have to sign a bunch of paperwork and30:58you have to make sure that30:59you know I me is is this massive contract to make sure that31:02you know you're not violating the government regulations and31:06I'm protected because I'm the patient the patient has to be protected31:09like can I J K which is are you know have a mi31:12a mutual business agreement I mean in the free market can I say I want your31:15service31:16and I'm gonna pay for it I mean it's just why is it so difficult31:19why is there so much red solid regulation was essentially when31:22insurance was not mandatory you know it was not mandatory and I i think i31:26believe you know some of the money that is being generated31:29art from making it I mandatory is31:32you know it it's basically for the healthy adult healthy adults who really31:36did not have insurance are being31:38asked to pay for people who are the engine using a to utilizing it31:42will give you an example I had a a young girl the twenty twenty one-year-old walk31:47in my office31:48and she couldn't really bear weight on her legs and by doing a basic clinical31:52exam31:53I knew there was a problem in the spine and I want in an MRI31:57all man that MRI they will not all you guys need to do next the first I said32:01I'm a doctor32:02somebody sitting and on the other end of the phone tells me that II said if I32:06don't do anything32:07she would possibly paralyze both her legs32:10for god sake let me do an MRI and a32:13it took me at least a half be to convince somebody32:17in the insurance company to get an MRI done for that person32:20so hall while always and when thankfully it was done and we took it over the32:25matter right away32:26the same day but hall can we function32:29I know there are doctors who would who would use or abuse the system %uh the32:34the percentage is very minuscule and very limited people who does32:38most of the doctors act in good faith32:41the really want best over their patients and that's when we we should32:45focus on on those doctors not on the ones that are resisting32:48that other ways to get all love them you know if they're wasting taxpayers32:51dollars up government knows about it32:53of course a and we do and I'm sure most to the public are the least they should32:57know that doctors are not32:58they're not super greedy they they went into medicine for a reason they wanted33:02to learn33:02I mean it's very important we you know that's how people we've saved so many33:06lives in technology and33:08and so for people to think the doctors on actually want to help people that's33:12that I think that's just ridiculous especially ones that that33:15that C33:16why universal health care is such a problem and government run healthcare33:20the is such an issue but go walk us through33:23so yeah if someone needs an MRI you have to call the insurance company33:27and then and then you have to debate with them yeah I mean you don't have to33:31I have to bend my case lay a foundation for my argument and then talk to them33:35and have them can33:36commented it it came with only take it cuz its ration care now right it they33:41have to approve every little thing that you do33:43yet they have to prove every little thing to some degree you know when it's33:47a routine practice33:48but see you know I jacked up well you know if I want MRI next three weeks I33:52really don't care33:53and have them look in my documents and approve it but something so totally when33:56I am actually getting on the for myself on my position time34:00trying to convince somebody sitting was just pushing the paper34:04that I need this thing done yeah and I'm not getting an answer I get frustrated34:08because34:09I here and I'm trying to get something accomplished imagine waif34:13if I'm not able to get that done something bad happened the post in34:17first person was getting it from it is Mimi the malpractice lawsuit nobody's34:21going to question insurance companies that they were not willing to pay for it34:24that just sounds terrible all this map I mean that do you have another americana34:29me the right34:30a private I think the ninth socialize the losses yeah34:34so the insurance companies make a bad you know to the money34:37because we have to buy the product but they don't get sued right there just34:40basically34:41tamarisk know hundreds in fact human doctor signs a contract with them34:45they basically said bill you'll hold us harmless you know34:49it's the whole that's that's an MD saying that folks that literally34:53insurance companies a say you have to buy a product34:56and the doctors are the ones that are gonna get sued the people that actually35:00you know the insurance companies they don't do jack they don't do anything for35:03the patients35:04nothing literally they restrict care the other restrict can I i think a process35:08to buy their care35:09I adaptation the other day in my clinic in a Medicare runs35:12couple programs one is fee-for-service program it's basically35:15ICU you pay be kind of a deal your comment and the other programs are35:19Medicare Advantage plans35:21bitch is covered under medicare Part C and what you would you notice for those35:25plans is and a lot of seniors are convinced to35:28going to those plan because the cost from their daughter pocket expenses35:32minimal35:32or sometimes you and what these people don't realize is the tradeoff is the35:38access to care35:39the quality of positions %um so a lot of people who changed to these plans35:43are tied up with the company and I would name a few United humana35:47are blue shield these are the companies who who have a battle business35:51in addition to commercial reach me in you by yeah35:54on contracting with medicare and be paid monthly basis to manage these Beijing35:59would be manages36:00they're dead they're be created administrative hurdles to get some36:04expensive desert lands36:05they create hurdles in terms of all the patients would be to forward in which36:09doctors would flee36:10to an extent that in Fresno if you are on some of these plans36:14you do not have a choice of hospital on an ambulatory surgery center36:18you just go with Monday tell you to and really36:22bit out good doctors in the town were not contracted with those plans36:26and it's so unfortunate that patients are36:29the only one suffering positions do so for your for us it's a monetary loss36:33but patient 3 loss yeah know exactly if someone has a serious health issue they36:38get get hit care36:39I mean that doesn't they're gonna die I mean it's possible that it's happening a36:42lot of the people get cancer36:44treatment and they just they just I guess say goodbye36:47here you know and the the thing is VB me being present when we look at the36:51hospital group we have here36:52we have the community hospital group in the scene Agnes Hospital Group36:55and with you on the advent of the Obamacare one has36:59edge over the other I don't know call for me all Hall you37:02how you view the news but if you been a hearing the news37:06sandy and children's there have been a tussle going on for last 2-3 months37:10sandy had lunch in an article a Madera to an extent they've split now37:14and the Children Hospital is coming up with their own group on training37:17programs37:18and this is burried Affordable Care is the basis of it37:22and you not have kids that you want to see specialists37:26you know the special inside the children and and you have to read for one company37:30to one insurance company to prove but affordable37:34to be seen in children hospital how far is my data from here37:37it's so unfortunate that our kids are not getting the care because of37:41something37:41more affordable is being planned for them into bed these37:45the these insurance companies are for-profit businesses so they have it37:49all37:49actuary doubt to where they are not going to lose money37:52there yet these hospitals operate as37:55nonprofit hospitals the majority around here like say37:59kaiser for instance or community there for 3 non-profit but yet38:04they have a profit motive behind the care their audited38:07that bloomin seed the only people who do not have a group of emotive oppositions38:12and the thing is that38:14the reason they don't have a clue profit motive is they don't split38:17the loyalty towards separation and the day even38:21the day even positions would split the alloy be38:24between the companies that the getting the money from38:27worse is who they are who they have their beauty devote38:31yeah that would be a day when really medicine would die you know we don't38:35want to see even physician has to decide between a patient38:38and the beer page position shouldn't even be thinking38:41right now position is with the with a hand on forehead your kind of thinking38:45what should I do38:46should I think but the patient but the real point in having insurance read is38:50that you buy it in so you don't have to worry38:52when you get to the doctor is all taken care of on foot38:56this is what is happening these people were sending these covered California38:59plans39:00do not poop in the real world the picture to the people who are39:03subscribing to your house39:05I have no information people not around a bit39:08where we talk about last year they spent $350 million dollars on advertising39:13and recover California yet such as propaganda that could have had money in39:18our pockets that itself giving it to them39:20advertise the yet and and the thing is insurance companies have been given this39:25I you know pat on the back a if you guys going to last because I've covered39:29California39:29bill be built a church about we will build pitch in and will cover your39:33losses so they have nothing to lose39:35the people who have to lose at the patient and though the positions39:38I don't know fight mention earlier on the program I had a patient39:43who lost her Medicare to one of these plans I39:46a Medicare managed my advantage plant she said the broker39:50Sat three and a half hours and her house39:54to convince her to sign up for that plan while and then she lost her and she39:58lasted and shit with such a surprise40:01when she walked and coughing to my office and I said I don't be a ticket40:04and Giselle she's you that medicare Ronald so many years and why don't you40:08dig it I thought I'd take medicare40:10but I don't take this personally many give you bought for shoes like40:13when can I change that said you have to wait for the next enrollment fee to40:17riches to at the end of this year now40:19so that lady poor lady stuck with a plan that was sold to herd40:23without going over the details of it and the coverage in the local40:27regional position areas Gabby I've dealt with some of these40:31covered California people when I was working in the health care industry40:36and a yeah I did I don't see how they40:39they have no ethics and they're very unscrupulous people are just farmers are40:44used car salesman on nightly40:45I have few friends who are insurance brokers and they have only40:48I'm up a jobby the heavenly so late in the Punjabi community40:52um but they said BP really good on the brokerage fetal40:57so the alarm should for that occurred to me and they're prolly earning commission41:01on every sale date yet honoring those heels people who are41:04well we're meeting the code as an going above and beyond the code as there are41:08being actually41:09car lenin's on it vid I mean awards yet there are actually41:13their pictures have them receiving awards bigger then roll the most number41:16of covered California be yeah41:18helping destroyed a America's health care industry and a minute so41:23doctor gil is the the free market doesn't exist in health care than any41:27more minutes government-run41:28there's too many regulations for people that actually wanna practice enough41:31the private market I mean is just but is there is there a free will there be a41:36free market at twenty years like you said for our41:37here that will be given it will be non-existent41:41dev now do you feel like like41:44like a lot of people are saying that it's designed this way to collapse the41:48system to bring in41:49a single-payer cover perforce rise many think government run healthcare41:55business it is unfortunately not it is a feeler41:59arm you know i i don't know how to42:02it's a it's a post dated check and it's drawn on a crashing bank42:07sorry no one understands what happened that's a good way to present the host42:12its second aggressing baked42:14school you can enter 88 is going to end up in that direction Harbor you would42:18date you know government steps in to save the system42:21our government takes control of the system but that's what today's42:24in a Medicare party which basically our42:28finds the hospital was was initially gonna go insolvent in42:332024 I know they said dole42:36the we've been able to extend six years and it's gonna good in Thailand and42:4020 E body so my question to you both a few is42:44if you were to drop from a 10,000 feet high42:48all water do you care if you draw four feet ahead of42:52what you were planning the at No it doesn't matter if they're just black is42:56so stupid42:56so it we have to recognize that is a problem43:00yeah I and we have to put ourselves 15 20 30 years ahead43:04and see that whatever that fixes the applying to plan43:07arm are actually working on it will work43:11in good faith and not and and we should think bipartisan43:14you know this is specifically and see that how they'd this is not even a43:18political issue and try to see Anna as43:20all with your on the ride a Republican you're against the poor people there43:25poised are cut from the lapd et al no immediate rush the frame this issue and43:30it's not even political43:31it's not a political it so it's more both melodic everybody's health care43:34personally43:35not because I'm a profession but in general as a human being so it's not43:39it's not really need to sit together we need to look at43:42what out but I did these would be our priorities are43:45to take you to people who helped build this nation43:48and will be out thirty forty years ago you know those are the people who are43:52sick in hospitals43:53and we need to BrdU me need to make sure we are there for their43:58and the time they need us that's what the goal should be and that's where the44:02focus should be44:03anybody who tries to make money order those sick people44:07is not a good human being and we need to end of the day be a good human being44:10and we have we have a social responsibility towards everyone relive44:14it be a civilized society44:16claim your we are super pirate we need to stand as every american we need to be44:21glued together in what we do and what we aim for ball of Oz44:25and I think you know maybe we can me can make things happen we make so many44:29things happen44:30and this is one of those things which we come together be44:33beat me we should find a middle ground I'm willing to cut my44:37my contract creates you check my mother the middle you know I'm I'm44:42the idea would work with patients didn't have insurance right if I came to you44:45work with not always on always I never even though I usually44:48up until then I started to get ahead from it financially44:52I was not even enquiring about a patient Scorpio and insurance44:56when I started to feel it on my you know on my44:59account statements II part in a man what I've been doing45:03is good for a humanitarian oh yeah but your life you gotta make money you gotta45:07you after you know I want you living in a tent and and giving charity hey45:11everyone has someone needs the Paiute you're giving a service45:14that's the free market that is americana free-market you work for your45:18what you what you are you learn every dollar45:21and if I wanna come see you I can just say oh I you know45:24you get need to get bigger I'm entitled to your care know you're giving me a45:28service45:28and if it's a good service I'm gonna pay for it and that's the way it should be45:32you shouldn't be livin45:33like you said you lost your login to your account you know your accounting45:36and this is department this is the45:38this is Anna this is something not only meets a lot of doctors are feeling it45:43somehow vocal about it others on talk about it from the fear of government45:47so-so will tell us a little bit about that I R is they're kinda the unanimous45:51consent that dates45:53people don't really want to you're one of the few that I've heard that are both45:55open is speaking out against it and45:57can you not everybody speaking out against it but I know either a doctors46:01are you heard you know other doctors will talk at dinner tables and46:04conferences and stuff you need to have to46:06bring it to the attention of journal Public talk to people you know people46:09out the 10 gonna46:10make the change happen yeah people are the one who have a lot of power to the46:14awards46:14do you make that change happen you know they are the one who were able to46:18convince and mass46:19armed the opinions that are performed at the national level46:23so it's if if BP's every single patient count in this46:26this whole I effort that we're trying to create a wave that46:30eight this is our business this is our bodies la route46:34be we want to be involved in what decisions are being made about our46:38health care46:39so that's where bid I think be all are talking about it46:43armed ID doctors would I think patients would appreciate what you're doing right46:48now and and as you can they come in your office46:51you probably do tell hey will this is exactly why can't take your plan because46:54I've46:55Obamacare I can't take it doesn't pay me enough so and then46:58it makes them think we need to start informing we need doctors started47:01forming say hey look47:02your care is not gonna be your not gonna have cheap care if you go private47:06and if you go get with the government plan it's gonna be terrible care47:09and you may not never even see a doctor your but they don't know that it's47:13clearly it's a packaged47:14sometimes I'm I'm crossing the waiting area and you know in the discussion47:18I get so embarrassed when I have to tell someone because I'm single father for47:22something and they they have47:24covered California and I i little league at Marienbad as47:27when I have to tell them that I don't take that insurance oh yeah it's got all47:31its all the truth they did you know many doctors we had pantheon any commercial47:35billboards radio yeah telling the truth with47:39paid actors are no doctors actually speaking about what this whole cover Cal47:43I'm I don't see many doctors talking about how great it is I personally like47:47the green in the yellow in the white47:49the use in the Flyers here that early it's rape very very poorly lighting47:53yes it's a non-threatening right it's it's not threatening like there's47:57you know Obamacare clubs at how employees are48:00Catholic earth right yeah but but but in in then we get into48:04that when you talk about the IRS how it ties in queue oh yeah it's48:09now do on your taxes you up to there's a line item on your tax return that you48:13have to say48:14if you have insurance or not and the straight up call it48:17shared responsibility payment48:20that's that's very socialist term terminology that the IRS is using48:25and so it's our share responsibility for everyone's health in America now48:30your responsibility to have everyone outside and ours48:34another language today yeah it's very social thing is that48:37when we all pay non-medicare dollars every paycheck48:40we expect something would be the living room where you know it on a partial to a48:44girl so you really already are pulling in money when you were gonna need it the48:48most48:48and this this whole thing i'd up Asian walking last year it was last year48:53I said you don't have insurance she says she doesn't get I said you know you48:56gonna be playin penalized for it she said she'll pay the fine men to buy49:00insurance49:01so her head parts with that even if I had an insurance I wouldn't have been49:05able to see you49:06this way at least and maybe BBQ energy has paid the fine49:10yeah she would see yeah bakula see how the government health care you can see a49:14doctor49:15it's easier to just pay the fine so they're just screwing us every you said49:18ways WN their number so as individuals we have to run our own numbers and49:22figure out the best cost-benefit for49:24ourselves as individuals now so that that that's what it is you know you have49:29to49:29see what what is going to be the utilization most people49:33don't go to doctor does that work Lt maybe once or twice unless you49:39you know you do something to your heart break a leg again a car wreck I49:42and that that is a catastrophe that's kind of awake alert insurance we have49:45yeah I'm so why don't just take a catastrophe insurance at a high49:48deductible one49:49and and pair it with the position plan positions are not allowed to have49:54plans because they have to have five million dollars in resolves49:58to offer those kinda plans so that is50:01again the law so really no small person can all for it50:05I have it for myself you know they do this they the insurance companies came50:09up to me and they said50:10he when we tried to negotiate with you50:13are you offer us a higher rate worse is50:16when we try to negotiate need be cash to you I said see i don't have to deal with50:20administrative hassle50:22you would deny my claim twenty times before you pay for it and it's not worth50:26it50:26to offer you the same rate as if I would be made them50:29offer it to a catch basin so my mind n you know50:32whole discussion we reason50:35this whole discussion we applied to focus on what matters most to us is good50:39patient care50:40yeah unfortunately money is so closely tied50:44that'd it comes up in our discussions yell US insurance premiums are50:48Penelope's50:48for me as a visit charge for hospitals as50:52if they are able to make any profit or at all50:55so v beyond know that it's all about money50:59yeah if we come up with a plan where everybody's happy51:03at least decent you know you don't wanna cry don't want to drive an ass class51:07along that the bid on it on to the end when you would want to see i I'm willing51:11to pitch in on my lifestyle51:13the area I'm willing to worked with people who are willing to work today51:17but it should not be in control of of men and women51:21who do not know what it feels like to be in trenches51:25yeah like the insurance company government bureaucrats51:28Washington Washington DC but no idea he said earlier in this interview there's a51:33quote doctors who are not practicing but they're trying it51:37now are you how to practice acting as government purity ahead and politicians51:42with an MD license51:43I they are the ones who %ah term be a51:47shaping the policy at the national level it looks like from a layman's and Dom51:52viewpoint that they had a position talking about something but they're51:55essentially51:56people hired for a job to should reshape52:00opinions and policies at a national level and sounded like as if those are52:04coming from doctors mild52:05essentially those people don't know they haven't seen patients in a while52:09they don't come and work with us or sea bass is a human and a half day a week52:14so they really don't know what it peeled what it was52:17they probably have some idea from twenty years ago when they were practicing52:20but they have no idea no clue what we do on a daily basis52:24yeah52:2578 who he really is what where these pure with the bureaucracy is done to52:29health care in this country52:30that's unbelievable folks52:34we have a couple minutes left but I'd like to thank doctor52:37Kanwar Gill and the what did you wanna pluginid you have a website you have a52:41new phone number you like this52:43arm I have an urgent get your own hun an investor vignettes call around the clock52:47Mb52:48the goal is to be available around the clock initially just the name52:52so I like BBBB would want to offer you Kelly Madison what what it would mean to52:58you is that52:58if you are an existing patient you call a lot of is and more likely than not you53:02would get prescription filled over the phone and you may not have to come to53:05our office53:06government had made a legislation in 201153:09unfortunately the regulation is such that we cannot make this happen53:14there is a law but is too much of a regulation53:17that is preventing it from happening someone on the first one in Fresno53:21arm who actually looked at the law that exist lol can't stop it yes and I'm53:26gonna start operating within this and you said the regulars more regulations53:30on top of that the don't allow it to happen53:31the the there there is a payment payment53:35in I barrier that basically nobody in Fresno can be53:39paid for it but if the patient is in Dubai really53:42we can get the payment whites letterman jackets it's it's a link to where you53:47live53:47it's not linked to its geographical limitation we have to show that53:52and I knew by that person would have a difficulty in getting to a doctor worse53:56isn't real a53:57thats price-fixing is right it is based on geographic location54:01yet that there is a new law that is going to became because you know I'm54:05emergency will look we are serving the poor because54:08the demographics in those areas are lower income than they are in Fresno54:12North a look54:13look how good we are we're helping poor people let me tell you54:16in India there was caste system in the lower castes were granted privileges in54:19the voting system54:20arm the dock system54:23those people over a period of fifty years are the World Bank54:27and we don't want the same thing happening in this country54:30that54:31you have an entitlement mom privilege people54:34who would have these like you know it's it's it's good to be on medi-cal54:38meant to be paying on covered California because you get everything achieved an54:42accomplished with that so we want this country to be leading innovation we just54:46don't want this country to be54:48following absolutely absolutely thank you so much talk to go54:53heard in the west is your practice are was a call around the clock54:57its call around the clock Mb and the website is it on the clock and the55:00dot-com55:01awesome we thank you so much yuppers patient that's right55:05we appreciate it social see on the second hour55:08weaponize news hello friends a 17 per mg for weaponize news dot com55:14today is january 15 201555:18and as you can see I'm reporting on an article published55:22in the washington times the headline reads55:25George Soros bones Ferguson protests hopes to spur55:30civil action liberal billionaire55:33gave unleashed 33 million dollars55:38in one year two groups that emboldened55:41activists you can scroll down here in he55:45it continues on to read there's eighty solid55:49Terry Mann at the financial center55:52other the for December protest movement no55:56it's not victim Michael Brown or officer Darryl Wilson56:01it's not even the reverend56:05al Sharpton despite his ubiquitous56:09campaign on TV and56:12this streets rather it's liberal billionaire George Soros56:18who's built a business empire that dominates across the ocean in Europe56:24well 4G a political machine powered56:27by non-profit foundations the impact56:31American politics and policy not unlike56:34what he did with me56:36move on dot or under you can scroll down and read56:40the rest of the article but mister George Soros56:44is a globalist billionaire piece of trash56:48who has no business bonini political movement56:51in the United States and no matter how you feel about producing we saw56:56how militarize the police were but there's a lot of evidence now officer56:59Darren brown57:00was justified in issue teen other I'm sorry officer down Wilson was57:06just fighting issuing up Michael Brown57:09the jury did not indict okay57:12you scroll down read the rest this story but this guy right here george soros57:18is bundy with this tax-exempt through his tax exempt57:23non-profit foundations major political movement in this country to undermine57:30America okay you want this stir up civil unrest57:34and start a civil war with the people against the police57:38wake up people don't buy on this garbage or I57:43there's a difference between legitimate protest in 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